"Hi Marsha - Thank you for the prayers and support. I agree with you - the only thing that was good about their death was the fact that they had no more pain. I would have given everything I had to stop the pain and kept him with…"
"Hi Marsha - Again - thank you for the prayers and the support. I believe that prayers work - not always in the way we thought of, but always for the better. I agree with you - the only thing good about our spouses death was that they are…"
"Jane P. - your such a dear. That's an all day trip just to go to the cemetery. Brian is buried just five minutes from our home. The church is where we got married in '66, where our kids were baptised, and where our…"
"Hi Cheryl - Thank you for your kind support and prayers. People on this site are so wonderful that it's unbelieveable.
Thank you also for the wedding congradulations. I am sure it will be a great start to a wonderful marriage, even…"
"Janeo - I didn't know it was your birthday today - Happy Birthday! Hope you celebrated and were happy today, even though it was Father's Day.
Carol - I remember something about you having a birthday too, I think it was last week or…"
"Hi Carol - thank you for your wishes for me. My daughter and I went shopping in Detroit today and we did talk about Brian and how he made us laugh. Yes, it was a hard day as I'm sure it was for all the women on this site. Life…"
"Marsha - Thank you again for your support and your prayers. Like I was telling Jane, the distraction of going shopping didn't help. I thought about it all day, especially at 4 pm when he died. I know I'm a lot kinder and…"
"Thank you, Jane P. for your comforting comments. It's been a rough day. I went shopping with my daughter all day and I couldn't get Brian's anniversary out of my mind. She just dropped me off and I wasn't in the…"
"Marsha - thanks for your prayer for me. I will do the same for you. Its funny that we both mention that 2 years seems like 20 years. I had a call from my best friend today while I was out and she said "two years already -…"
"Dear Marsha - Thanks a lot for your wish for me for a great weekend. I'll settle for getting through it without crying. Its the second anniversary of Brian's death on Sunday - Fathers Day besides. My poor kids miss their…"
"Marsha - your in your own element now. I believe once you let go, you'll truly enjoy it. Good for you - I wish I could be that brave. But I fully understand where your coming from. Don't let your weight get you down…"
"Janeo - yes, the poem was from nethugs.com. I get it sent to me everyday and I thought that was appropriate. I'm sorry about getting back to you 3 days later, but I have been keeping two grandchildren ( 9 and 6) and they have run me…"
"To everyone on this site - thank you for your kind words and your concern over me and my fall. I am slowly getting better. I have a fused spine except for the cervical portion. When they did my last surgery, it really wrecked my…"
Wilena, Click on that person's picture. Under the picture will be her name, location, (i.e. United States , Canada) There will be a string of items you can click on: send message, recommend, flike, share - twitter, remove friend, block message. Heck block message is better then remove friend! Hope this works for you. Hang in there. Sending hugs, Jane P.
Wilela, You do not need to be harassed in such a manner and some people hover over the weak and grieving, which we are both. If this person is among your friends there is a box allowing you to remove her as a friend. click on her picture and underneath you will find the remove as a friend question. click on it and I think she will no longer have access to your personal account. I hope this works. NO ONE should have to endure what you are now experiencing. (Welcome to the world of the Internet!!!!) HUGS, Jane P.
Wilela, Thank you for adding me as your friend. Please move away from the hurtful words spoken to you and move on.
Have you ever needed to make a decision or wonder if you should go somewhere and suddenly you get a feelings from out of no where or the little voice in your head starts talking to you? Well, I read a book in which they described gut feelings, or the little voice as our love ones tapping us on our shoulders. It is their way of communicating with us. Follow your heart and believe what it is telling you. Hugs, Jane P.
Wilela, After a 17 month battle with lung cancer my husband too passed in June, 2011. I find year two to be harder than my first year without him. I was told year two is the year of reality where you truly begin to realize two has become one. Yes, it is so hard for me to put one foot in front of the other, the tears are many and always forthcoming. Just about anything can set the waterfall off and my heart feels so heavy from all the shattered pieces. In my grief group it was unanimous about year 2 being so difficult. SO we are normal, this is all part of the grieving cycle. I, like the rest of us, just want this month to be over. May we be able to wear our outside face with pride and if the tears come let others understand our sorrow. Many hugs, Jane P.
Dear Wilela, How have you been doing? I was wondering had you given any thought to the scriptural information that I sent you? Also, did you have any questions concerning the reasoning and illustrations that I used? I will get back with you soon I haven't forgotten you.
Wilela in my last reply one of my sentences was not completed concerening the idea of purgatory.....it was to say: once the soul of that one was purged of any remaining sins then that person's soul would travel to heaven. This sounds very complicated and confusing....because this idea becomes open to other questionings.
Dear Wilela, I hope and pray this message finds you doing fair under the circumstances, I was viewing you and your husband's picture and I want to say that you and Brian made a handsome couple. As I've said to others on this site: "As much as I want to, I will never totally feel what others' go through when they lose a loved one to the enemy death" Each situation is minutely unique. Feelings and emotions vary, as well as the length of one's grieving period, one one has their special way of handling their loss. Their is no set pattern as to how one should grieve. However, the basic thread that mends us all together is the deep heartwrenching emotional pain we feel when someone dear to us dies. Even if they were not close, or an aquaintance or someone we knew; theres something about death that causes us to take pause, it causes us at times to express an array of emotionals and behaviors. These and many more sad scenarios are the after effects, the side effects of this enemy called death. Death is not natural. It is one of the abnormal sad consequences that our first human parents, Adam and Eve brought upon mankind because of their disobedience to God. (Genesis 2:15-17).
Wilela, you said that your faith teaches you that depending on the way a person lived their life, their soul would be going to heaven, purgatory or hell. Let, us start off with Adam and Eve. Genesis 2:17 states what would happen to the first couple if they disobeyed the very simple command that said: But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will positively die". Wilela it was just that one tree that they were not to eat from. Why? Because that tree belonged to Jehovah and it represented His right to rule over humans. Adam and Eve had a vast array and variety of succulent fruit trees and an endless variety to tickle their palates forever (Genesis 2:16). Now the question is Wilela, what happened to Adam and Eve when they died because of their disobedience to God? By the way that is why we grow old, get sick and die (Romans 5:12)...When pronouncing sentence or their punishment upon Adam and Eve, the Authority on what happens at death mentions what God himself said to the doomed couple: "In the sweat of your face you will eat bread until you return to the ground, for out it you were taken. For dust you are and to dust you will return". Adam and Eve simply returned to the dust or elements of the earth. So, Wilela is there any mention of or indication that said something would leave their bodies upon death and travel to either heaven, hell, or purgatory?...In God's original purpose for humans we were created to live upon the earth under peace, paradisaic conditions (Psalms 115:16)....Also, many believe in the church teaching of purgatory. The teaching says that purgatory is a middle ground for the souls of those who died, these ones if their sins were not that great when they died they would have a 'stop over' between heaven and hell to clean out or purge out any remaining sins so that the person. Interestingly, the word purgatory is no where to be found in the Bible, the idea, concept or teaching is not found in the Bible. So where did this falsehood come from? The U.S. Catholic commented: "The church has relied on traditon to support a middle ground between heaven and hell." Notice, please, Wilela that this concept of purgatory is based on human traditions and not on the authority of God's Word the Bible (Matthew 15:3, Mark 7:13)...Wilela, I will address the other concerns in your reply to me in my next message to you. Take care and I will continue to keep you in my prayers and thoughts.
Wilela I appreciate you coming on board with me as a friend. I pray that as the holiday season reaches a cresendo that you have peace and endurance to make it through as it is always difficult for those who have lost loved ones to the "enemy" death to get through those days. Take care of yourself.
Dear Wilela, first of all let me commend you for such great questions and for taking out the time to share your beliefs with me. I will do my best to answer your questions based on what the Bible, God's Word says. My words mean nothing if they are not solely and solidly based on the authority of the Bible (2nd Timothy 3:16,17; Romans 3:4). Wilela, first let me ask you this: What do you think about a person who claims they know all about you, yet the statements they present or say about you are totally misrepresented. How would those false statements make you feel? What would you say to that person to set matters straight? First of all, we'd say "this person doesn't know me at all". Second, you might feel hurt or even disappointed becaused of being misrepresented. And third, to get the details straight you would take measures to correct or clear up any misrepresentation of yourself. Wilela, this is what has happened to God, Jehovah....there are so many misleading statements about Him and His Son Jesus....It "pains" or causes Him to feel "hurt at heart" when sees His name misrepresented. However, God invites us to " Come, now you people, and let us set matters straight...." (Isaiah 1:18; Psalms 78:41; Genesis 6:6). Wilela I will address one or two of your questions at a time because you have many questions and many sincere concerns.
Concerning the soul, in the Bible, "soul" is translated from the Hebrew word ne'phesh and the greek word psy-khe'. The Bible's usage of the word "soul" shows the soul to be a person or an animal. Or, the usage of the word "soul" can be used to show the life that a person or an animal enjoys or lives. However, many persons are taught that the soul means the immaterial or spirit part of a human being that survives the death of the physical body. This view is not Bible based.
So the question is: What does the Bible say that helps us understand what the soul is? Notice Genesis 2:7: "Jehovah God proceeded to form the man out of the dust from the ground and to blow into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man came to be a living soul." Notice that this does not say that man was given a soul but that he became a soul, a living person. Before God blew the breath of life into Adams nostrils to activate his lungs and other vital organs, Adam was simply a dead person or a dead soul. Its kinda like CPR, once Jehovah administered the 'CPR ' figuratively speaking Adam came to life. Also, that verse at Genesis 2:7 mentions nothing about a separate entity or spirit being taken from the dust as part of a component in the creation of Adam.
Wilela, you said your religion teaches that the soul goes where their life leads them: To heaven, hell, or purgatory. According to the Bible at Genesis 3:19 the returning back to the dust is the outcome of those who have fallen asleep in death, which is the opposite of life. We become simply nonexistent until God calls us from the memorial tombs (Isaiah 26:19; Acts 24:15; John 5:28,29; John 11:1-44). Ask yourself Wilela, would a loving God torture or burn people forever? Think about this: Would a loving, caring parent punish their child or chilren continuously simply because they made a mistake, perhaps getting a bad report card? No, a few temporary restrictions of the things they enjoy would suffice or hopely get the point across about getting better grades. Also, can a spirit burn? Does anything burn forever? Even the hardest substance, iron or steel will eventually melt down. Hell is mankinds commom grave. Wilela I will get back with you soon to continue answering your questions.